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AMERICAN SOCIETY OF HEATING, REFRIGERATING, AND
AIR CONDITIONING ENGINEERS, INC.
1791 Tullie Circle, NE / Atlanta, GA 30329
(404) 636-8400
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TC/TG/TRG MINUTES COVER SHEET
(Minutes of all TC/TG/TRG Meetings are to be
distributed to all persons listed below within 60 days following the
meeting.) |
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TC/TG/TRG NO.: |
4.10 |
TC/TG/TRG TITLE: |
INDOOR ENVIRONMENTAL MODELING |
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DATE OF MEETING: |
February 7, 2000 |
LOCATION: |
Dallas |
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DATE ISSUED: |
March 15, 2000 |
RECORDED BY: |
W. Schwarz |
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VOTING MEMBERS |
YEAR |
PRESENT y/n |
Sub-committee Chairs |
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Off |
| Knappmiller, Kevin, Chair |
99 |
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Membership |
Hosni, Mohammad |
| Horstman, Raymond, Vice Chair |
99 |
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Y |
Programs |
Emmerich, Steven |
| Schwarz, Walter, Secretary |
99 |
03 |
Y |
Research |
Phillips, Duncan |
| Clark, Daniel |
98 |
02 |
N |
Standards |
Gaston, Charles |
| Emmerich, Steven |
98 |
02 |
Y |
Web Page |
Dols, Stuart |
| Murakami, Shuzo, International |
96 |
00 |
N |
Handbook |
Horstman, Raymond |
| Gaston, Charles |
98 |
02 |
Y |
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| Baban, Farzad |
98 |
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| Baker, A J |
99 |
03 |
Y |
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| Chen, Qingyan |
96 |
00 |
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| Ensor, David |
98 |
02 |
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| Kerr, Carolyn |
96 |
00 |
Y |
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| Von Kempski, Diotima |
98 |
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| Zhang, Jianshun |
99 |
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Y |
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| CORRESPONDING MEMBERS |
PRESENT |
CORRESPONDING MEMBERS |
PRESENT |
| Anderson, Ren
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N |
Markel, Lawrence |
N |
| Arens, Edward |
N |
Melikov, Arsen |
Y |
| Axley, James |
N |
Morrison, Ian |
N |
| Barakat, James |
N |
Offermann, Francis |
N |
| Barles, Pierre |
N |
Olesene, Bjarne |
N |
| Becker, Bryan |
N |
Pei, Hsien-Sheng |
N |
| Christianson, Leslie |
N |
Peterson, Janice |
N |
| Colliver, Donald |
N |
Rivers, Richard |
N |
| Fanger, Ole |
N |
Roberts, Jack |
N |
| Farrington, Franklin |
N |
Rogers, Lisa |
N |
| Gadgil, Ashok |
N |
Sawachi, Takao |
N |
| Gordon, Elliott |
N |
Seppanen, Olli |
N |
| Grimsrud, David |
N |
Sestak, George |
N |
| Grot, Richard |
Y |
Shaw, Chia-Yu |
N |
| Haghighat, Fariborz |
N |
Teichman, Kevin |
N |
| Hall, John |
N |
Tompkins, Dean |
N |
| Hensen, Jan |
N |
Tronville, Paolo |
Y |
| Hosni, Mohammad |
Y |
Vandermeullen, Paul |
N |
| Int-Hout, Daniel |
N |
Walton, George |
N |
| Janssen, John |
N |
Willman, Alexander |
N |
| Jones, Gordon |
N |
Yoshizawa, Susumu |
N |
| Jones, Robert |
N |
Zhang, Wei |
N |
| Kato, Shinsuke |
N |
Zhang, Dexian |
N |
| Kelso, Richard |
N |
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| Kirkpatrick, Allan |
N |
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| Krafthefer, Brian |
N |
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| Levin, Hal |
N |
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| Manning, Andy |
N |
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| Markel, Morris |
N |
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ADDITIONAL ATTENDANCE |
| Rittelmann, Bill |
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| Srebric, Jelena |
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| Rees,
Simon |
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| Dajka,
Stephen |
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| Carter,
John |
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| Fracastoro, Gian Vincenzo |
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| Kondo,
Yasushi |
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| Armstrong, Peter |
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| Dols,
Stuart |
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Present:
y/n |
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| Speich,
Carl |
RAC
Research Liaison |
N |
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| Jones,
Byron |
TAC
Section Head |
N |
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| Colliver, Donald |
Education Liaison |
N |
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| Crowther, Hugh |
Refrigeration Liaison |
N |
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| Knebel,
David |
Standards Liaison |
N |
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| Friberg, Emil |
Program
Liaison |
N |
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| Taylor,
Steven |
Journal/Insights Liaison |
N |
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| O'Neal,
Dennis |
TAC
Chairman |
N |
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| Pons,
Ramon |
Special
Publications Liaison |
N |
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| Ramspeck, Claire |
Staff
Liaison (Standards) |
N |
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| Knight,
William |
TEGA
Liaison |
N |
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| Seaton,
William |
Staff
Liaison (Research) |
N |
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| Weiland, Martin |
Staff
Liaison (Tech. Services) |
N |
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- Call to Order: Chairman Kevin Knappmiller called the meeting
to order at 2:22 p.m. Nine out of thirteen voting members were present
at the time the meeting was called to order and a quorum was
established.
- Welcome an introductions: A welcome was offered by Kevin
Knappmiller and everyone attending the meeting introduced themselves.
- Roll Call: Nine out of thirteen voting members were present
at the roll call and a quorum was established. Minutes from the last
meeting held in Seattle were approved 9-0-0-13.
- Announcements: Duncan Phillips attended the TC Chair and
Research Committee Chair breakfast meeting and reported the following
items:
- ASHRAE is fixing the membership rollover database and wants
information in on time
- Programs:
- Because of the original early deadline there are still some
openings in the Minneapolis program
- ASHRAE wants to limit symposium papers to 30 pages.
- August 4, 2000 is the deadline for submitting programs for the
upcoming Atlanta meeting.
- A CD-ROM version of the ASHRAE Handbook will be released this
summer.
- ASHRAE Journal InSights / Technology Corner offers an opportunity
for TCs to talk about what they do. TC 4.10 is one of three TCs which
actually took advantage of this opportunity before ... Steve Emmerich
volunteered to update/modernize what TC 4.10 had previously submitted
before.
- The Environmental health Committee has a list of projects that
they want to work on but are short of manpower to get the projects
through the ASHRAE system and are willing to collaborate with other
TCs.
- Membership:
- The discussion on membership was led by Kevin Knappmiller who
indicated that he will not be able to attend the upcoming summer
meeting and not be able to participate in TC 4.10 activities following
the summer meeting due to a career change. Vice-Chair Ray Horstman
will be the acting Chair for TC 4.10 at the summer meeting in
Minneapolis.
- After the summer meeting, the Chair position would be vacant due
to Kevin Knappmiller's departure, hence Vice-Chairman Ray Horstman
will move into the Chairman position and Secretary Walter Schwarz will
move into the Vice-Chairman position. This movement created an
opportunity for someone to volunteer for the Secretary position and
Stuart Dols, who is also the TC4.10 webmaster, volunteered to become
the Secretary beginning with the Atlanta meeting. Since there is
already one voting member from Stuart's organization, he will serve as
a non-voting member. Steve Emmerich agreed to continue as Program
Committee Chairman, Jerry Baker agreed to become the Handbook
Committee Chairman, And Duncan Phillips agreed to become Research
Committee Chairman.
- During the meeting it was discovered that Diotima Von Kempski
should actually be an International Member of the TC 4.10 rather than
a regular voting member.
- Current International Member Shuzo Murakami is scheduled to go off
the committee after the Minneapolis meeting and the committee agreed
to enlist Shinsuke Kato as a new International Member.
- A number of people will be coming off as voting members after the
Minneapolis meeting:
- Kevin Knappmiller
- Qingyan Chen
- Carolyn M Kerr
- Jianshun Zhang
- And a number of people will cycle on as voting members
- Mohammed Hosni
- Duncan Phillips
- Since Dan Clark has indicated that he no longer is able to
continue as Research Committee Chairman of TC 4.10, the TC needs to
find out if he is willing to continue as voting member or also plans
to discontinue that role as well.
- The committee will add two new corresponding members who attended
the Seattle meeting:
- Francis Allard
- Amy Musser
- Membership Chairman Mo Hosni stated that he is not getting the
membership reports from ASHARE and Kevin Knappmiller mad a note of
that.
- Research: Chair Dan Clark was unable to attend this year's
meeting and Duncan Phillips filled in.
- The next deadline for submitting work statements was 2/15/00.
- ASHRAE would like to see work statements prioritzed
- ASHRAE wants to understand why dissenting votes and explanantions
needed.
- The next research plan is due August 1st.
- RP-903 Experimental Validation of Multizone Models for Predicting
Air Contaminant Transport in High Rise Buildings
(PMS Chiar: Dave
Ensor, PI: Gren Yuill) - This project has experienced a number of
unfortunate delays and the the PI has requested a no-cost extension
until 3/31/2001 because the desired experiments with desired weather
conditions haven't been completed. The committee still expects useful
data to come from the completion of the project and recognize the
extenuating circumstances which have caused the project to fall behind
schedule. The committee voted 10-0-0-13 to recommend that ASHRAE grant
a no-cost extension until 3/31/2001 for this project.
- RP-978 Interaction of Room Air Motion and the Human Body in
Confined Spaces
(PMS Chair Jianshun Zhang, PI Byron Jones) - A
request was made by the PI for a non-cost extension to 8/31/2000. .
The committee voted 10-0-0-13 to recommend that ASHRAE grant a no-cost
extension until 8/31/2001 for this project.
- RP-1009 Simplified Diffuser Boundary Conditions for CFD Room Air
Models
(PMS Chair Kevin Knappmiller, PI Yan Chen) - The progress
on this project was discussed at two-hour meeting on Sunday morning
and the project is on track for completion in July, 2000. The project
examined the box method which works on all eight diffusers studied
(but is difficult to implement) and a simpler monentum method which
works on five of the eight diffusers. Since Kevin Knappmiller, who is
the PMS Chair, will be leaving the TC, Duncan Phillips will become the
new PMS Chair for this project and the other members of the PMS are
Farzad Baban and Jerry Baker. Duncan Phillips will file the form for
updating the composition of the PMS.
- RP-1097 Modeling VOC Sorption of Building Materials and its Impact
on Indoor Air Quality - Phase I
(PMS Chair: Dan Int-Hout, PI:
Jianshun Zhang) - This relatively new project is moving along
according to schedule. Discussion of this project, led the committee
to believe that there are some additional areas concerning the human
perception of VOCs which would warrant research. Diotima Von Kempski
with help from Jianshun Zhang volunteered to draft an RTAR on the
subject.
- TRP-1133 How to Verify, Validate, and Report Indoor Environmental
Modeling CFD Analyses
(PES/PMS Chair Farzad Baban) - Five bids
were received for this project and the discussion on this and the
recommendation of the PES was moved to the end of the meeting and held
as a closed session.
- There is no need to change the research plan at this time;
however, the following information updates the status of the various
ideas:
- Modeling Low Velocity Large Scale Fluctuating Flows in
Ventilated Spaces
- the work statement is not ready yet. The
first draft will be ready by may with Ray Horstman writing it with
help from Steve Emmerich.
- Modeling Ventilated Environments with Large Internal heat
Loads
- The Research Committee reviewed a draft work statement
identifying several changes to be made and desiring additional
information to be added. A revised work statement will be available
by May.
- Modeling Natural Ventilation
- A work statement on this
subject was prepared by Yan Chen and the committee voted 10-0-0-13
to approve the work statement and submit it to ASHRAE research.
- Upcoming RAS deadlines are
- Feb 15th
- May 15th
- Aug 15th
- Program - reported by Steve Emmerich
- TC 4.10 thanked Walter Schwarz for organizing Seminar 6
entitled Case Studies of Modeling Industrial Environments which
was held at this meeting and attracted an attendance of 42 for the
four speakers. The response from the audience was favorable and it
might be a good idea to plan a future symposium on the same topic.
- Walter Schwarz volunteered to organize a symposium on
Experimental and Numerical Studies of Airflow in indoor
Transportation Environments for the Summer 2001 meeting to be held
in Cincinnati.
- Original program plans had called for a seminar on Advances in
CFD Modeling to be held at the Minnesota 2000 meeting. Steve will
check with Allen Kirkpatrick who was organizing this session which may
be moved to the Atlanta meeting.
- A previously planned symposium on VOC Modeling chaired by
Gemma Kerr will not be ready for the Minneapolis meeting and is now
scheduled for the Atlanta meeting.
- A previously planned symposium on Experimental Validation of
Multizone IAQ Models will not be ready for Minneapolis and is now
planned for Atlanta.
- A previously planned symposium on Modeling Natural or Hybrid
Ventilation Systems will not be ready for Atlanta and is now
planned for Cincinnati.
- The committee voted 10-0-0-13 to co-sponsor, along with TC 9.8, a
seminar for Atlanta on Computer Modeling of Large Occupied Indoor
Spaces. Jerry baker and Walter Schwarz volunteered to present
something at the seminar.
- Handbook - reported by Ray Horstman
Final changes are being made to a new chapter on computational fluid
dynamics which has a place reserved in the ASHRAE Handbook of
Fundamentals. The committee thanked Ry Horstman for his efforts in
leading this important first step in describing CFD in the ASHRAE
Handbook.
- Standards - no activity
- Web Site - Reported by Stuart Dols
- Stuart prepared a draft TC4.10 homepage and the committee voted
10-0-0-13 to approve it for use as the official TC4.10 homepage.
- Stuart attended an ASHRAE workshop on TC homepages and reported
that the TC needs to obtain permission for including people's email or
phone information - Stuart will ask everyone for permission to
included their contact information.
- The committee discussed what types of material should be available
on the TC4.10 homepage and the following items were mentioned;
- Presentations from TC4.10 sponsored seminars
- Status of research projects
- Activities in Other TCs - the following relevant activities
were mentioned:
- TC1.2 Instruments and Measurements - Arsen Melikov / Mo Hosni
mentioned a project looking at the effects of turbulence intensity on
velocity measurements.
- TC2.1 Physiology and Human Environment - Diotim Von Kempski
discussed this TC's interest in physiological factors of IAQ and
interest in what could be done with ASHRAE research results along this
line.
- TC2.3 Gaseous Air Contaminants/Removal Equipment - Gemma kerr
reported that this TC is co-sponsor a VOC symposium for Atlanta.
- TC4.7 Energy Calculations - Kevin Knapmiller reported that this TC
is interested in mixing in multi-zone models using multiple nodes.
- TC5.8 Industrial Ventilation - Duncan Phillips reported on
displacement ventilation research activity in this TC.
- New Business
- The committee thanked Kevin Knappmiller for his hard work and
contributions as TC4.10 Committee Chairman.
- A move to adjourn was made and approved.
Last updated September 14, 2000
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